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 Post subject: A'S, B'S and D's
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:00 pm 
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I know I should know this, and I'm sure I'm the only one who doesn't know this but can anyone explain to me the relationship of the letter to the garment in clothing identification codes.
Eg Mechanics jacket is a D-1, Mechanics trousers are B-1's, flying jacket B-6, B-3, Mechanics caps A-3 Gunners cap B-2 ETC. I cannot see any consistency in the identification letters of flying gear or ground gear can anyone help?


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 Post subject: Re: A'S, B'S and D's
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:07 pm 
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Abe, don't beat yourself up over this.....I've not got a clue either! I understand the progressive version numbers on the most discussed jackets, but that only follows for a handful of patterns/designs.
So, for flight jackets we have: A1, A2, B10, B15...... I'm sure someone has an idea about the 'logic' (?) applied??

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I'm glad it's not just me, I was told the A is for warm weather and B is for cold weather, but that doesn't always follow suit either!


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The A's where the corresponding trousers to the B series jackets and caps.

The B trousers where the corresponding items to the D jackets.

So it looks like A & B went together? But then this idea is scotched by the D & B going together?

Common logic says that if A & B are an item then the D's should be married to the C's? But where are the C's?

But then the letters had a number as well? Hence A3 and B3 where an air crew item and D1 & B1 brought the ground crews up to date.

I suspect station 128 aka the oracle will put us all to shame when he sees this thread. :D

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MIKE STOCKTON. wrote:
I suspect station 128 aka the oracle will put us all to shame when he sees this thread. :D

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Now that's a certainty!

Over to Paul.......

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I would think the Class 13 Illustrated Catalog of AAF clothing and equipment would contain some of the answer at least, but I don't have a copy to hand I'm afraid.

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 Post subject: Re: A'S, B'S and D's
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ABE wrote:
I'm glad it's not just me, I was told the A is for warm weather and B is for cold weather, but that doesn't always follow suit either!


Now working on that scale the D-1 fits in quite well - given the extreme winter conditions that ground crew often had to contend with, I'm guessing D stood for 'Don't even go there!' :o


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From US Army Air Force book 1 ( Elite Series books ).

The type letters identified only broad categories of flying clothes. Type 'A' usually designated summer jackets ( with no matching trousers ), trousers ( with matching 'B' type jackets ), summer suits, summer helmets, winter gloves, most footwear, and many other categories. Type 'B' generally identified winter and intermediate jackets ( with matching type 'A' trousers ), winter suits, winter helmets, summer gloves, and most caps.

Type 'C' identified early electric heated items; 'D' some mechanics clothes, 'E' & 'F' later electric heated items, 'G' anti-G suits, 'K' & 'L' late war light flying suits.

Then came the joint army/navy designation, ie, AN-J-4 Jackets.

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 Post subject: Re: A'S, B'S and D's
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Station 128 wrote:
I would think the Class 13 Illustrated Catalog of AAF clothing and equipment would contain some of the answer at least, but I don't have a copy to hand I'm afraid.

I have a copy but unfortunately it throws no light on the subject.
Steve that's the most comprehensive answer so far, thank you. :D


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