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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:36 am 
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OK I don't know the correct nomcleture but I know it as the service cap.

It's a pre-war? Visor cap with other ranks and officer versions.

I bought one yesterday at Stoneleigh in a large size with the small variant of the officers badge on the front. It is of the usual green felt material and leather peak with the adjustment belt at the back.

Now my questions?

Are the enlisted ranks and officers styles both the same? And if so can the front badge just be changed so I can use it either as an enlisted rank or officer?

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 Post subject: Re: Service Cap.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:00 am 
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The US nomenclature is;

Olive Drab Serge Wool Service Cap

Specification 8-5E

The officers cap has a mohair hatband, the enlisted cap does not.

The enlisted caps match the colour of the four pocket tunic, and can be serge or felt, the officer's can be the 'chocolate' gabardine, or a greener olive that doesn't seem to match much else. Both have russet leather peak and chinstrap with 9/16" brass or gilt buttons.
The rear strap is not an adjuster, but rather was initially a 'mounted' item used in conjunction with the chin strap to secure the Cap whilst galloping over hill and dale.


General issue of them stopped with adoption of the Garrison cap to conserve cloth, but stocks were issued, and they were available as private purchase throughout the war. They are also damned inconvenient to deal with if you have to go indoors, and officers can keep 'em


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 Post subject: Re: Service Cap.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:19 am 
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Mike, you were at Stoneleigh on Sunday?? I didn't see you.. met up with Andy & Lee.

More of a concern is that you spent money!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Service Cap.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:12 pm 
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Very informative and an indepth appraisal from Shrike.
Now another question? Where would the stiffener band be located and what gauge?
Yore right Chris I don't spend often but when the item is correct and good enough I do. 😎

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 Post subject: Re: Service Cap.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:15 am 
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The stiffener on the enlisted hats (or at least on the one I have handy) is a simple spring steel band 10-12mm wide that sits at the seam where the top is sewn to the sides. You could make a new one if you have access to the sort of steel banding you used for securing crates and heavy boxes. You could also get the same effect with a couple of lengths of piano wire from the local hobby shop secured into a loop with tape.

Unlike the more complex 'Combination Covers' as used by the USN there aren't necessarily any vertical supports.


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