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 Post subject: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:42 am 
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As well as using some RAF towed bowsers in the early days, the USAAF brought with them their own purpose-designed fuel tankers.

The main ones seen in the UK were the rigid 750 gallon F-3, fitted to the GMC 2.5ton truck chassis, the 2000 gallon F-2/F-2A semitrailer and the 4000 gallon F-1/F-1A semitrailer.

Semi-trailer, Fuel Servicing, 4000 Gal F-1
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Semi-trailer, Fuel Servicing, 4000 Gal F-1A
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Train-Towing F-1As
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The trailing F-1A has a Dolly, Trailer Converter, Fuel Servicing, Type F-2 fitted to it's 5th wheel coupling, to allow it to be tandem-towed.

Usually towed by a Truck, Tractor, Fuel Servicing, 7.5 Ton 6x6
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Semi-trailer, Fuel Servicing, 2000 Gal F-2
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Semi-trailer, Fuel Servicing, 2000 Gal F-2A
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Usually towed by either the above tractors, or the smaller Truck, Tractor, 4-6 Ton 4x4 series
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Truck, Fuel or Oil Servicing, 750 Gal, 2.5 Ton 6x6 F-3
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There was also the visually almost identical Truck, Oil Servicing, 660 Gal, 2.5 Ton 6x5 L-2.

In addition, there were the following towed trailers, which may or may not have all been used in the UK.

Trailer, Fuel Servicing, 600 Gal A-1
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Trailer, Fuel Servicing, 220 Gal A-2A
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Trailer, Fuel Servicing, 600 gal A-3
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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:43 pm 
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Paul,
I was wondering if you had come across any photos of the bowsers used to drain fuel into to do fuel cell work? I think they were simular to ours now but can't seem to find any photos. Thanks boss. (Ya' like our last event photos?)

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:46 pm 
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Hi Scott,

Good photo's from Ft Verde, the display looks great.
I'm going to e-mail a few of them to Ed Dana who runs the 401BG forum if that's ok with you. His dad is ex-615th and they live in Phoenix too.

Regards bowsers used for emptying tanks, the only photo I've seen is an F-1A being used at Kingman. I'd presume the pumps could run both ways, or they were gravity-drained.
I'll have a look through the E&M Manual AN 01-20EG-2 to see what it has to say. I know the outboard main tanks have a drain valve mounted on them directly, the inboard tanks' drain valve is in the feed pipe just behind them, and the main tanks come out through removeable panels on the underside of the wings.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:16 pm 
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No problem about sending the photos. I was just curious as we have a bowser that's about 3 foot tall including wheels that we use on todays airplanes and was curious if there was a simular one then, seems I can't find one so I thought i'd ask. Thanks again boss!

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:48 pm 
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All the missing pictures have now been resized and rehosted, so you should be able to see them again. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:15 pm 
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Hi,

Does anybody have the dimensions for the USAAF 2000/4000 gal semitrailers pictured at beginning of topic. I guess the pics are from TM 9-2800 which I don't have. Could somebody please post them if they were indeed published.

Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:31 pm 
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Hi Tabv - can you be more specific about what dimensions you need, and for what purpose? Can help with F-1A 4,000 gallon unit, the F-1 is same chassis and equipment (see below) but with streamlined body.

While I'm on - can anyone help me with a copy of a T.O. (manual) for the F-1A? Indeed does anyone know what number the T.O. is?

T.O. 19-25-11 is the manual for the Type F-1, most equipment is the same but the Type F-1A has a different pipe / pump / hose reel layout.


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:40 pm 
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Osgood - What I need are overall dimensions - Length , Width , Height , Wheelbase, Tire size (11.00 x 20 by chance?) or any drawings that will let me get some 3D models for flight sim scenery use underway. The models will not be super detailed but must have the correct proportions. I don't have any really good elevation photos so my estimated scaling might be a bit off.


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:57 am 
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Hello,
Is it possible to post the related TM 9-2800 pages (source of the images), with the dimensions and technical notes ?

Many thanks,

G_Mendes


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Bowsers (reference)
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:39 am 
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I'm afraid the scans of the data pages were on another hard drive, which died some time ago. :(

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